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      <title><![CDATA[Links List 11.24.08]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[The hunt for the nations first CTO continues . Although names have been suggested, such as standout nominees include Bruce Schneier, founder of Counterpane and now chief security technology officer at...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; margin: 5px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" src="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/markcuban.jpg" border="0" alt="markcuban" width="240" height="164" align="left" /> The hunt for the <a href="http://weblog.infoworld.com/robertxcringely/archives/2008/11/the_once_and_fu.html?source=NLC-NOTES&amp;cgd=2008-11-17" target="_blank">nation’s first CTO continues</a>. Although names have been suggested, such as standout nominees include Bruce Schneier, founder of Counterpane and now chief security technology officer at BT; Mark Cuban for his obvious business sense – and in spite of the <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/17/mark-cuban-insider-tradin_n_144320.html" target="_blank">insider trading indictment</a> – and Carly Fiorina, former controversial CEO of HP, the next question is what policies should this CTO pursue? Visit <a href="http://obamacto.org/" target="_blank">ObamaCTO.org</a> to view and vote for policies.</p>
<p>SaaS is taking a bite out of the $18 billion IT management market. A <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/11/will_it_managem.html?cid=RSSfeed_IWK_ALL" target="_blank">new Forrester Research report forecasts SaaS-based IT management accounts will be 10%</a> of the market by 2013. The reason: high level of interest from medium-sized and large enterprises. Forrester also predicts that enterprises with 1,000 or more employees will account for 50% of SaaS installations in 2009. We’ve seen this on the service desk side with the <a href="http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2007/01/17/service-nowcom-briefing-itil-saas/" target="_blank">rapid growth of upstart Service-now.com</a>. Companies are looking for easier and rapid deployment, lower upfront and capital costs and rapid time to value – all benefits of SaaS as well as our own <a href="http://www.sciencelogic.com/appliancebenefits.htm" target="_blank">appliance model</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://chucksblog.emc.com/chucks_blog/2008/11/the-speculation-game-ibm-buys-transitive.html" target="_blank">IBM snapped up Transitive</a> this week. Their QuickTransit software dynamically translates native code <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081120-ibm-to-buy-transitive.html" target="_blank">between architectures</a>, enabling apps compiled for one processor to be run on another without any modification. Apple was the first licensee and used it to build Rosetta, a translation system that allowed users of Intel Macs to seamlessly run legacy PowerPC apps. IBM plans to use the technology to move workloads onto IBM systems without recompiling, allowing customers to “save on energy costs due to hardware consolidation and reduced TCO.”</p>
<p>At CA World, CA announced a partnership with Amazon to provide “<a href="http://stage.vambenepe.com/archives/442" target="_blank">management capabilities around Amazon’s EC2</a> utility computing platform, potentially including discovery of software running on EC2 instances, performance monitoring, configuration management, software deployment capabilities and provisioning”. John Willis, in spite of some pretty funny potshots and stories about CA (don’t we all have them), writes that “<a href="http://www.johnmwillis.com/amazon/what-color-is-your-cloud/" target="_blank">CA is the first of the Big Four to take the cloud serious</a>”.</p>
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      <title><![CDATA[Raffys Visualization Book]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Here is my long-overdue book review for Applied Security Visualization by Raffy Marty
First, here is what my early endorsement for the book said (can be found on the inside cover of the book
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my long-overdue book review for <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Applied-Security-Visualization-Raffael-Marty/dp/0321510100">“Applied Security Visualization“&#160; by Raffy Marty</a>.</p>  <p>First, here is what my early endorsement for the book said (can be found on the inside cover of the book):</p>  <p>“Amazingly useful (and fun to read!) book that does justice to this&#160; somewhat esoteric subject - and this is coming from a long-time&#160; visualization skeptic! What is most impressive that&#160; this book is&#160; actually 'hands-on-useful,&quot; not conceptual, with examples usable by&#160; readers in their daily jobs. Chapter 8 on insiders is my favorite!”</p>  <p>What else do I think of the book, apart from the fact that it is awesome? :-)</p>  <p>First, I have to admit that I used to argue with Raffy about usefulness of visualization. I was burned by having to look at bad “visualization” tools and would take <em>an ugly, meaningful table over an ugly, meaningless picture</em> any day now. Thus, I was a visualization skeptic. Buy you know what? The book does justice to visualization really well, and it explains when to use it and when not to use it.</p>  <p>The book gives just the right amount of visualization theory, which is not onerous to read at all (unlike some other books), as well as other visualization basics. The fun starts at Chapter 4, where he covers&#160; the process from data to useful pictures. This actually explains why some visualization are useful and some are not; if you just jam data into a graphing program, there is a good chance that it would not be too useful. If you follow the ideas from Ch4, it is more likely to be useful.</p>  <p>Ch5 and 6 cover network data analysis: logs, packets, flows. This is what most people usually try to visualize; this book goes beyond “worms and scans” into nice visuals of email traffic, wireless and even vulnerability data (I found the latter slightly confusing). Ch7 covers “compliance”, which, in this case, covers all sorts of fun things, from risk assessment to database log visualization.&#160; As I said, Ch8 is my favorite: I agree that insider tracking MAY be the area where visualization tools and approaches beat others. In Ch9, the book covers a few visualization tools; obviously, including the author’s AfterGlow.</p>  <p>So, to summarize, get the book if you have any connection to security AND data analysis. In fact, it is very likely that if you are doing security, you’d have to do data analysis at some point and so will benefit from reading the book. And, yes, it does come with a CD full of visualization tools (DAVIX).</p>  <p>BTW, I am posting it <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Applied-Security-Visualization-Raffael-Marty/dp/0321510100">at Amazon</a> as well.</p>  <div class="blogger-post-footer">About me: http://www.chuvakin.org</div><div class="feedflare">
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      <title><![CDATA[The Economics of Finding and Fixing Vulnerabilities in Distributed Systems ]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[The Economics of Finding and Fixing Vulnerabilities in Distributed Systems
Quality of Protection Keynote
Alexandria, VA
October 27. 2008

Gunnar Peterson
Managing Principal, Arctec Group
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>The Economics of Finding and Fixing Vulnerabilities in Distributed Systems&#0160;</div><div><a href="http://qop-workshop.org/Program.htm">Quality of Protection Keynote</a></div><div>Alexandria, VA</div><div>October 27. 2008</div><br /><div>Gunnar Peterson</div><div>Managing Principal, Arctec Group</div><div>Blog: http://1raindrop.typepad.com</div><br /><div>When Andy Ozment asked me over the summer to do this talk at QoP, I knew back in August that the topic I wanted to address was security and economics. So to that end I would like to start by thanking all of our friends on Wall Street and here in Washington DC for providing such a rich tapestry of recent events that I can speak to.</div><br /><div>Like many people in this industry, my focus on security was fundamentally altered by Dan Geer&#39;s speech &quot;Risk Management is Where the Money Is&quot;[1], there are not many people who can call a ten year shot in the technology business, but Dan Geer did. The talk revolutionized the security industry. Since that speech, the security market, the vendors, consultants, and everyone else has realized that security is really about risk management.</div><br /><div>Of course, saying that you are managing risk and actually managing risk are two different things. Warren Buffett started off his 2007 shareholder letter [2] talking about financial institutions&#39; ability to deal with the subprime mess in the housing market saying, &quot;You don&#39;t know who is swimming naked until the tide goes out.&quot; In our world, we don&#39;t know whose systems are running naked, with no controls, until they are attacked. Of course, by then it is too late.</div><br /><div>So the security industry understands enough about risk management that the language of risk has permeated almost every product, presentation, and security project for the last ten years. However, a friend of mine who works at a bank recently attended a workshop on security metrics, and came away with the following observation - &quot;All these people are talking about risk, but they don&#39;t have any assets.&quot; You can&#39;t do risk management if you don&#39;t know your assets.</div><br /><div>Risk management requires that you know your assets, that on some level you understand the vulnerabilities surrounding your assets, the threats against those, and efficacy of the countermeasures you would like to use to separate the threat from the asset. But it starts with assets. Unfortunately, in the digital world these turn out to be devilishly hard to identify and value.</div><br /><div>Recent events have taught us again, that in the financial world, Warren Buffett has few peers as a risk manager. I would like to take the first two parts of this talk looking at his career as a way to understand risk management and what we can infer for our digital assets.</div><br /><div>Warren Buffett&#39;s evolution as an investor can be broken up into two parts. He began his career very much influenced by Ben Graham, who sought to buy &quot;cheap stocks&quot;, comparing the price of the stock to value of the company&#39;s assets, and placing many, diversified bets on companies whose share price was below the total assets. Note that the businesses may have been of unremarkable quality, but when the price was right Graham would buy in, wait for it to rise and then sell. This was the dawn of value investing.</div><br /><div>Buffett&#39;s later career departed from Graham&#39;s strict, statistical measures, where he sought to buy into companies that were selling at a fair price, but were also high quality businesses. We will examine high quality in Part 2 of this talk, but first we go to Part 1 which is asset value.</div><br /><div>Why does a talk on finding and fixing vulnerabilities start with valuing assets? The reason is that vulnerabilities are everywhere, we are literally marinating in them. Interesting vulnerabilities are attached to high value assets. In a world that quite literally presents us with too much information, we need screens to sift out what is worth paying attention to. &#0160;You can run your vulnerability assessment tool of choice on your system, and come back with hundreds or thousands of vulnerabilities, but which ones should you pay attention to and act on? The first part of answering this question is asset value.</div><br /><div>When Warren Buffett was 19 years old studying at the University of Nebraska, he read Ben Graham&#39;s book &quot;The Intelligent Investor&quot;, Buffett said he thought it was the best book on investing he has ever read and still feels that way today. In the Intelligent Investor Graham lays out the framework of value investing. Specifically, Graham talks about three concepts - Mr. Market, a stock is a piece of a business, and Margin of Safety.</div><br /><div>Mr. Market is a fictional, teaching device invented by Graham. You imagine that you have a somewhat manic depressive business partner called Mr. Market. Every day, Mr. Market comes into the office and offers you quotes on companies, some days he is in a good mood and the prices are high, other days he is gloomy and prices are low. The market is a quote machine, for quoting prices, not a value assessment machine. Your job is to wait for the right price, and you are free to take as many passes and be as patient as you would like, Mr. Market will just show up the next day and throw out a new price.&#0160;</div><br /><div>Graham used Mr. Market to teach us the separation between a price of a stock, and the value of a company. The second big concept from Intelligent Investor is that buying a stock is buying a small piece of the underlying business. You are not buying a roulette chip, or a number that fluctuates in the newspaper every day, rather you are buying a piece of the company&#39;s existing and future cash flow. What the stock market says General Electric is worth yesterday, today or tomorrow is separate from GE&#39;s actual ability to generate cash flow.</div><br /><div>The last big concept in &quot;The Intelligent Investor&quot; and the one seemingly most applicable to information security is the Margin of Safety. Graham&#39;s margin of safety involved calculating the intrinsic value of a business and then buying stock where the market cap of a company is less than its intrinsic value. So if a company has $100 million in assets and a market capitalization of $75 million, then an investor would get a 25% margin of safety. Ideally, Graham wanted to buy stocks that were selling for one half of their book value, i.e. with a 50% margin of safety. Graham said that buying stocks without a margin of safety, above their book value, speculation, not investing.</div><br /><div>So price is readily available, but how do we calculate intrinsic value so that we can ascertain the margin of safety? Graham used quantitative statistical measures, relying heavily on the company&#39;s book value, like its hard assets. What would it take for a competitor to reproduce the company&#39;s assets - its factories, distribution system, and so on. The difference between the book value of the assets and market cap is the margin of safety.</div><br /><div>What can we learn in information security from this quantitative approach? Where price and value are readily ascertainable we should build countermeasures and eliminate on vulnerabilities that give our assets a wide margin of safety. Since budgets are not unlimited we should prefer vulnerabilities that are cheap to find, cheap to fix.</div><br /><div>First to the asset question, information security budgets like all IT budgets are crufty, they are not a reflection of today&#39;s top issues and priorities so much as an accumulating snowball of decisions, legacy contracts, and solution attempts to yesteryear&#39;s problems. Today the normal Information Security budget is just a legacy artifact from bygone years when the network was the purported greatest vulnerability. If you were around in 1995, you remember the great gnashing of gears as the enterprises opened up their networks, connected their back ends to the Web and began to transact business in the giant virtual space.</div><br /><div>The security people huffed and puffed that it was dangerous but there was simply too much money to be made, so businesses went ahead. The security people would not go down without a fight and insisted on countermeasures. They got two - the network firewall and SSL. The firewall was used to separate the average Fortune 500s network of hundreds of thousands of machines, employees, consultants, and partners from the web at large. SSL was used to protect the network channel between the web server and the client browser. so the network firewall separated the network segments, and SSL in effect encrypted the last mile of many million complex transactions and computations.</div><br /><div>In 1995, this seemed like a good security architecture. When we built out these security architectures, the eCommerce market was derided as a toy. Amazon famously lost money for years - losing a little on every transaction but making it up in volume. When the market is nascent, a quaint security architecture offers cost effective protection. But what about 2008? Those cute little eCommerce buggers have grown they even make profits now - market caps measured in the tens of billions, accumulating large cash hordes, no debt, and the largest ones are in better financial shape than the financial services players that kicked sand in their face in the dotcom era.&#0160;</div><br /><div>And its not just eCommerce, the &quot;real&quot; economy Fortune 500 types are all connected as well. Directly and indirectly the Web is seeping into all businesses. Major changes from when the security architecture of the web was built out. But has the security architecture changed to reflect these new business realities? Not a bit of it!</div><br /><div>We can use the book value of the IT budget investments and the book value of the Information Security investments to see what kind of Margins of Safety Information Security groups are engineering.</div><br /><div>Let&#39;s look at some market data, Gary McGraw reviewed the numbers [2] in software security for 2007, breaking down software security sectors like tools and services. Here is a summary of his findings on software security tools:</div><br /><div>&quot;One of the most important developments in the software security market can be seen in the tools space which, combined, almost doubled to $150-180 million. Top of list are two major acquisitions that closed in 2007: Watchfire&#39;s purchase by IBM (somewhere in the range of $120-150 million on 2006 revenue of $26 million) and SPI Dynamics&#39;s purchase by HP (for around $100 million on 2006 revenue of $21.2 million).</div><br /><div>...</div><br /><div>The black box space was flat in 2007, with IBM/Watchfire checking in at $24.1 million and HP/SPI Dynamics earning $22.3 million. Smaller companies in the space, including Cenzic, Codenomicon, WhiteHat and the like had combined revenues around $12.5 million (a growth of 25%, though Cenzic grew 16% and WhiteHat 52%). Most of the growth &quot;hiccup&quot; in the black box market can be attributed to the serious challenges posed by any acquisition. So far 2008 looks to be back on track from a growth perspective in the black box testing space. The global reach that IBM and HP offer are already making a big difference.</div><br /><br /><div>On a more positive note, static analysis tools for code review grew at a healthy clip in 2007 into a $91.9 million dollar market. Fortify was up 83% to $29.2 million. Klocwork grew over 60% to $26 million. Coverity grew over 50% to $27.2 million. Ounce Labs tripled their revenue to $9.5 million.&quot;</div><br /><div>These are very nice growth numbers, what company doesn&#39;t want 83% growth? However, the let&#39;s look at the total picture and compare the software security countermeasures against other security mechanisms. Gary McGraw&#39;s estimate shows the software security space coming in at $150 Million total, yet we see a company like Checkpoint that won the network security war in 1995 with earnings of around $900 Million! One single network security vendor is 6 times bigger than the entire software security space, in what alternate universe does this make sense?</div><br /><div>This is where we begin to see that decisions in the People&#39;s Republic of Information Security have no real risk management thinking, they truly are swimming naked and hoping the tide doesn&#39;t go out.</div><br /><div>Let&#39;s look at network assets. Obviously Cisco is the biggest, they earned $39.5 Billion last year. Pretty stellar. So spending $900 Million (Checkpoint) to defined $39.5 Billion seems like a pretty good deal.</div><br /><div>Except, let&#39;s compare software security spending - last year Microsoft earned $60 Billion, SAP $16 billion, and Oracle $22 Billion. So that is about $98 Billion in just three vendors and you are going to &quot;defend&quot; that with allocating $150 Million worth of software security tools?</div><br /><div>On the network side we are buying $900 million of security countermeasures (Checkpoint firewalls) to protect $39.5 billion worth of Cisco gear, about 2.3% of the network investment goes to security.</div><br /><div>On the software side, we are buying $150 million of security countermeasures (like static analysis and black box scanners) to protect $98 billion of software (you know the stuff that runs the whole business), roughly coming to about 0.2% of the software budget goes to security.</div><br /><div>This is very disturbing. From a prioritization standpoint The People&#39;s Republic of Information Security is misaligned by an order of magnitude at least. Next time you read about a data breach, or see an auditor&#39;s report with thousands of findings you won&#39;t have to wonder how it happened. It happened because Information Security doesn&#39;t have its eye on the ball, it invests in network security not because those controls have greater efficacy (the whole point of networks is they are dumb), no, they invest in network firewalls because they bought a bunch in 1995, some more in 1998, and heck they just kept buying them, the Checkpoint rep kept showing up and taking CISOs out to play golf, contracts got renewed, and poof - there goes the security budget.</div><br /><div>Consider that software security tools could grow 50% a year for five years and still be half of where Checkpoint is today.</div><br /><div>The optimistic way of looking at all this data is that there is major room for growth for software security, if you take network security as a target for a mature industry and assume that 2.3% is a reasonable margin of safety, then the software security space should evolve to around 2% of the software space meaning that it should evolve into a $2 billion space around fifteen times larger than it is today. Unprotected assets will either be protected or will cease to be assets, VCs get your check books ready.</div><br /><div>My friend Brian Chess has a nice way of looking at this he says 2007 was the turning point - &quot;the first year there was a bigger market for products that help you get code right than there was for products that help you demonstrate a problem exists.&quot;</div><br /><div>Now I am not suggesting that Information Security budgets have to be aligned with IT budget one for one, but I do think that looking at the overall IT budget is the starting point. If Information Security has a more cost effective security mechanism they should deploy it, but the starting point should be aligned to the business. Businesses spend most of their money on software, and there are very good reasons - competitive advantage, increased revenues and lower costs. Information Security spends most of its money on network security, and there is no good reason why, except that it was a seemingly good idea in 1995. You really don&#39;t have to go beyond the book value of IT investment as a whole versus Information Security to see a stunning disparity. Information Security&#39;s job is to deliver a Margin of Safety to the business, but they are not.&#0160;</div><br /><div>To deliver a real Margin of Safety to the business, I propose the following based on a defense in depth mindset. Break the IT budget into the following categories:</div><br /><div>- Network: all the resources invested in Cisco, network admins, etc.</div><div>- Host: all the resources invested in Unix, Windows, sys admins, etc.</div><div>- Applications: all the resources invested in developers, CRM, ERP, etc.</div><div>- Data: all the resources invested in databases, DBAs, etc.</div><br /><div>Tally up each layer. If you are like most business you will probably find that you spend most on Applications, then Data, then Host, then Network.</div><br /><div>Then do the same exercise for the Information Security budget:</div><br /><div>- Network: all the resources invested in network firewalls, firewall admins, etc.</div><div>- Host: all the resources invested in Vulnerability management, patching, etc.</div><div>- Applications: all the resources invested in static analysis, black box scanning etc.</div><div>- Data: all the resources invested in database encryption, database monitoring, etc.</div><br /><div>Again, tally each up layer. If you are like most business you will find that you spend most on Network, then Host, then Applications, then Data. Congratulations, Information Security, you are diametrically opposed to the business!</div><br /><div>Its not just about alignment for alignment&#39;s sake, its about applying controls as a way to have a Margin of Safety properly placed so that when not if there is a failure on a higher value asset you are relatively better positioned to deal with it.&#0160;</div><br /><div>The pure statistical approach can only take us so far. Buffett said he would be a lot poorer if all he did was listen to Ben Graham. Book value is great to see the diametric opposition mentioned above, but it doesn&#39;t really tell us much about the efficacy of the security mechanisms.</div><br /><div>What we do get out of this statistical approach is a screen. The asset value screen filters out subjective opinion and narrows the field for where we need to dig in to do the high value, time consuming analytical work.</div><br /><div>The second part of Warren Buffett&#39;s career and the second part of this talk leave behind pure statistical measures. In Warren Buffett&#39;s case he was joined by a guy named Charlie Munger who talked him out of the pure Ben Graham approach. Charlie Munger has a saying - &quot;a great business at a fair price beats a fair business at a great price.&quot; Where Graham was focused on price and margin of safety, Munger wants a fair price but also a high quality business. This lead to Warren Buffett&#39;s company Berkshire Hathaway investing in companies like Coca Cola, Wells Fargo, and American Express, where the prices were far from dirt cheap (as Graham would have wanted), but the long term returns were outstanding.</div><br /><div>In our world of Information Security, we start by aligning our priorities with the business using the thumbnail defense in depth approach, but then we would like to invest in high quality, effective controls.</div><br /><div>To get at the notion of control quality and effectiveness, I am going to start part 2 of this talk with a brief history of software. The first web software was just static HTML, but web software really got interesting when developers started creating dynamic websites using CGI an PERL.</div><br /><div>Once websites were hooked up to company databases and were not just serving static content, the security people realized they needed a security architecture, and they sprung into action. What they came up was was model that divided the world into &quot;good stuff&quot; which was comprised of all their networks, systems, and data; and then there was everything else the &quot;bad stuff&quot; on the Internet. So job one of the early days Internet security architecture was to separate all your good stuff (i.e. your network) for the bad stuff (the Internet). To do this the security people used a sophisticated tool called Visio to draw a flaming brick wall on the network diagram, and this flaming brick wall was supposed to keep the good stuff and the bad stuff separate.</div><br /><div>The security people also realized that the data and session tokens that they served up from their Web server would have to traverse the &quot;bad&quot; neighborhood called the Internet, so they added one more security mechanism to secure the last mile of the transaction - SSL between the browser and the Web server.</div><br /><div>And this was the state of the art security architecture used circa 1995 to protect the earliest dynamic web applications.</div><br /><div>What happened next was that the dotcom boom started to happen and businesses realized they could make some real money on the Web, the web apps started to get more sophisticated, more personalization, richer session experiences and so on. This led the Java people to create JSP and the Microsoft people to create ASP, and of course the PERL people to create even greasier PERL scripts, all of this in the effort to pooling resources and sessions on the Web server. The security people defended this new application programming model with network firewall and SSL.</div><br /><div>Around 1998, developers began building out more distributed N tier or 3 tier applications that separated the business logic layer, the presentation layer and the data access layer. Among other things, your web application could seamlessly integrate data from multiple back ends systems. Let&#39;s say you have pricing data in Oracle, order data in SAP, and customer data in a Mainframe. You write separate data access objects, apply business logic in the middle tier and then you tie it all together in a friendly user interface. At this point the web applications are beginning to integrate across departments and geographic boundaries, huge critical chunks of the business are now connected to the web. How did the security people defend this part of the business? They applied the same 1995 security architecture - network firewall and SSL.</div><br /><div>Around 1999-2000 timeframe businesses relied on web applications for major parts of the revenue, and the apps were built in different technologies like Java and Microsoft technologies, but the customer didn&#39;t care (still doesn&#39;t), the customer wanted (and still wants) data access and functionality. So to integrate the disparate technologies, SOAP and XML were deployed so that Microsoft could talk to Java and so Websphere could talk to Weblogic and so on. And, oh yes, SOAP and XML were used to connect B2B networks so partners in a supply chain and business process can exchange data and interoperate. &#0160;SOAP and XML present a fundamentally new programming model based on a message document style integration, where XML is used to mesh together data and functionality across platforms. SOAP and XML have no security model by default for authentication, authorization, and confidentiality. How did the security people deal with this? They kept the security architecture the same as they had in 1995 - network firewalls and SSL.</div><br /><div>The software world did not stop innovating in 2000 of course, in the last few years we have seen Web services and XML form the basis of baroque and powerful SOAs and simple REST applications. We have seen Web 2.0 come on the scene, and entirely new networked applications built on top of that.</div><br /><div>What we have not seen, is a single meaningful change in security architecture in 13 years. Developers have evolved, businesses have increasingly bet their entire business models on the web and they have increased security budgets. But what has the security architecture as its deployed in the field got to show for all of this? More firewalls and more SSL connections.</div><br /><div>Since Information Security has proven incapable of evolving, it is time to learn from a discipline that has mastered innovation - software development, and yes, I will step back in case the lightning bolts hits.</div><br /><div>What does software development focus on these days? Well, let&#39;s look at Service Oriented Architecture (SOA), all hype aside I look at SOA as a set of technologies that delivers three things:</div><br /><div>Virtualization: we want Beijing, Bangalore and Boston to communicate.</div><br /><div>Interoperability: we want our .Net stuff to talk to our java stuff.</div><br /><div>Reusability: how many order/claim/pricing/customer systems does one company need?</div><br /><div>To build out their SOA, developers separated the application interface from its implementation. So you can host the interface in a variety of locations, but its separate from the application logic and data.</div><br /><div>This is also a useful trick for putting services like SOAP through the firewall. SOAP was designed as a firewall friendly protocol. When SOAP first came out, Bruce Schneier said calling SOAP a firewall friendly protocol is like having a skull friendly bullet. Which is a great line and explains why his books fly off the shelves, it does not explain, why security people think an architecture designed in 1995 is the one we should be using today. Maybe the problem is not that the developers figured out how to go through the firewall to get the data their customers want, maybe the problem is that the firewall is the sum total of the security architecture, and it never adapted.</div><br /><div>A big part of this problem is that we have left Newton&#39;s world behind and entered Einstein&#39;s universe. Mainframes are Newton’s world, we have THE computer, THE price, THE record and so on.</div><br /><div>As Pat Helland explained [4,5], Mainframes are Newron&#39;s world, but Distributed computing is Einstein’s world. More specifically in the Einstein world of distributed computing - &quot;Computers don’t make decisions, computers try &#0160;to make decisions.&quot; Our computers don&#39;t really make a decision, they say you can buy this book from Amazon at this price, we have it in stock and will deliver on such and such a date. But the warehouse runs out, the pallet gets dropped in the warehouse, your boo is crushed, and the package is stolen off your front step. The computer confirmed your transaction, but the real world intervened.</div><br /><div>So we don&#39;t have iron clad decisions, instead its all about Memories (last time I checked your book was in stock), Guesses (we should be able to ship on this date) and Apologies (sorry the forklift ran over your book)</div><br /><div>Translating this into security, security mechanisms don’t make policy-based decisions, security mechanisms try to make policy-based decisions</div><br /><div>Some examples of memories, guesses and apologies in security</div><br /><div>Memories</div><div>Security Policies - for example Triple A policy</div><div>Triple A policies can memorize a map of subjects, objects, and roles. They can even replicate these memories and play them back at runtime to try to make policy enforcement decisions.</div><br /><div>Guesses</div><div>Security Policy Enforcement Decision</div><div>Unfortunately, while the policy enforcement decisions can be based on memorized logic, the decision itself is still a guess, even in the case of Triple A. Any guesses why? Because, the authentication process itself is a guess. It happens to be a guess that you then bind to a principal so it looks very official once you bind your guess to a Kerberos ticket or SAML assertion, but it still a guess.</div><br /><div>Apologies</div><div>Giant Global Bank is sorry your account was compromised!</div><div>And this leads to lots and lots of apologies by companies with poor access control models.</div><br /><div>Some additional examples of information security memories, guesses and apologies.</div><br /><div>Example Memories - Triple A Security Policies, Audit logs, User account information , Authorization Logic - concrete mapping Subject, Resource, Condition, Action</div><br /><div>Example Guesses - Security Policy Enforcement Decision Points, Authentication Logic, Monitoring, detection, fraud response</div><br /><div>Example Apologies - Identity Management tools - provisioning, deprovisioning, Reimburse customer for fraud losses, Compensating Transaction - Giant Global Bank is still sorry your account was compromised!</div><br /><div>The point of this is that security memories, guesses and apologies utilize different processes, different people, and different capabilities to be effective.</div><br /><div>What trends can we identify to lead us toward better qualitative analysis based on the best practices of virtualization, interoperability and reusability.</div><br /><div>Virtualization</div><div>Finding Vulnerabilities in a Virtualized World is a problem because applications are more configured than coded. Runtime behavior and structure not apparent due to weak typing and inversion of control.</div><br /><div>Result - finding bugs becomes harder. Action - use screens to target finding time and resources</div><br /><div>Fixing Vulnerabilities in a Virtualized World is a problem because how do I locate the controls when interfaces run in Beijing, Bangalore and Boston?</div><br /><div>Result - synchronization and/or replication of security policy is problematic. Action - decentralized policy enforcement points and policy decision points. &#0160;</div><br /><div>Interoperability</div><div>Finding interoperable vulnerabilities</div><div>XSS - Javascript is an equal opportunity offender - interoperability for developers and attackers alike.</div><br /><div>Fixing interoperable vulnerabilities</div><div>App servers, ESBs, and services are the attacker’s red carpet to your enterprise, right into your book of business. Interoperable access control can be leveraged across the enterprise.</div><br /><div>Use XML signature for authentication and integrity&#0160;</div><br /><div>&lt;SOAP:Envelope&gt;</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span>&lt;SOAP:Header&gt;</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">		</span>&lt;WSSE:Security&gt;</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">			</span>&lt;ds:Signature&gt;</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">				</span>&lt;ds:Reference URI=‘#body’&gt;</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">		</span>&lt;/WSSE:Security&gt;</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span>&lt;/SOAP:Header&gt;</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span>&lt;SOAP:Body wsu:Id=‘body’&gt;</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">		</span>…</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span>&lt;/SOAP:Body&gt;</div><div>&lt;SOAP:Envelope&gt;</div><br /><div>Use XML encryption to protect sensitive data, don&#39;t pass sensitive data in the clear</div><br /><div>&lt;?xml version=&#39;1.0&#39; encoding=&#39;UTF-8&#39;?&gt;</div><div>&lt;soapenv:Envelope xmlns:soapenv=&quot;http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/&quot;&gt;</div><br /><div>&lt;soapenv:Body&gt;&lt;ns1:echo xmlns:ns1=&quot;http://sample01.samples.rampart.apache.org&quot;&gt;</div><br /><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span>&lt;param0&gt;My Credit Card Number&lt;/param0&gt;</div><div>&lt;/ns1:echo&gt;</div><div>&lt;/soapenv:Body&gt;</div><div>&lt;/soapenv:Envelope&gt;</div><br /><div>Encrypt the data</div><br /><div>&#0160;&lt;wsse:Security xmlns:wsse=&quot;http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-wssecurity-secext-1.0.xsd&quot; soapenv:mustUnderstand=&quot;1&quot;&gt;…</div><div>&#0160;&#0160; &#0160; &#0160; &#0160; &#0160; &#0160;&lt;xenc:EncryptedKey Id=&quot;EncKeyId-3020592&quot;&gt;</div><div>&#0160;&#0160; &#0160; &#0160; &#0160; &#0160; &#0160; &#0160; &lt;xenc:EncryptionMethod Algorithm=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2001/04/xmlenc#rsa-1_5&quot; /&gt;</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">		</span> &lt;xenc:CipherValue&gt;</div><div>XNQ0a4legiie5mWFxO6CQkk2hhldYNnKroObue/LXS/VYtvaTgMbCujhGExDi+vlkU//Qc2/T6mx0WVTmBMT3z8rogha8jD+nS9Zr2Bc3CwoTh2lh8wL3D0DEu91iwJT9JByLGXvt7v9lyuxK0ooDOYEClsH974CPmTs3tBC+GQ=</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">		</span>&lt;/xenc:CipherValue&gt; &#0160; &#0160; &#0160; &#0160; &#0160; &#0160; &#0160;&#0160;</div><div>&lt;/xenc:CipherData&gt;</div><br /><div>To ensure that these controls are applied use automated tools like static analysis to scan for security mechanism use and coverage.</div><br /><div>In terms of reusability findings and fixes consider two bug findings</div><br /><div>Session management bug: session state is passed around to every component, service and user. Makes for many high priority findings in audit report, also the fix is required on virtually every program</div><br /><div>Data validation bug: Data access object (DAO) has a SQL injection hole. One major high priority finding in report. DAO used by many business logic classes, one fix location serves many classes&#0160;</div><br /><div>To bring these factors together, I generally use a scorecard index [6], so you can measure such things as transport security, message security, threat protection and so on. The hard work in developing the index is developing a useful scale. A scale for XML tokens could use the following</div><br /><div>0: no token</div><div>1: hashed token</div><div>2: hashed and signed token</div><div>3: hashed and signed token from standard authoritative source</div><br /><div>An example scale for XML validation could use:</div><br /><div>0: no validation</div><div>1: schema validation</div><div>2: schema validation against hardened schema</div><div>3: schema validation against standard, hardened schema</div><br /><div>These indexed scales are used to show maturity across the factors in the scorecard. The first part of the talk described value, the value assessment is used to focus time and effort on high value assets. The value assessment can be determined quantitatively. There is hard analytical work to qualitatively determine the scorecard, index, and scales, the quantitative value assessment is used to screen out high value targets for these endeavors. The scoring index is used to track progress and improve quality over time. In the best case scenario, automated tools are used to perform the checks described in the index, and once security is automated just like software developers we may see security innovation make progress in years not decades.</div><br /><div>Thank you for your time.</div><br /><div>1 &quot;Risk Management is where the Money Is&quot; by Dan Geer,&#0160;<a href="http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/20.06.html">http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/20.06.html</a></div><br /><div>2 Berkshire Hathaway 2007 Shareholder Letter by Warren Buffett, <a href="http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/2007ltr.pdf">http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/2007ltr.pdf</a></div><br /><div>3 &quot;Software [In]security: Software Security Demand Rising, by Gary McGraw</div><div><a href="http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1237978">http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1237978</a></div><br /><div>4 &quot;SOA and Newton&#39;s Universe&quot; by Pat Helland, <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/pathelland/archive/2007/05/20/soa-and-newton-s-universe.aspx">http://blogs.msdn.com/pathelland/archive/2007/05/20/soa-and-newton-s-universe.aspx</a></div><br /><div>5 &quot;Memories, Guesses and Apologies&quot; by Pat Helland, <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/pathelland/archive/2007/05/15/memories-guesses-and-apologies.aspx">http://blogs.msdn.com/pathelland/archive/2007/05/15/memories-guesses-and-apologies.aspx</a></div><br /><div>6 &quot;Web Servicres Security Checklist&quot; by Gunnar Peterson, <a href="http://arctecgroup.net/pdf/WebServicesSecurityChecklist.pdf">http://arctecgroup.net/pdf/WebServicesSecurityChecklist.pdf</a></div>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[I have to say that Part II of this session was much anticipated after the lively interaction yesterday. It turned out to be less of a debate and more like a fireside chat. (image from pro.corbis.com...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style="border-top-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px" height="220" alt="clip_image002" src="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/clip-image0024.jpg" width="323" align="left" border="0" />I have to say that Part II of this session was much anticipated after the lively interaction yesterday. It turned out to be less of a debate and more like a fireside chat. <a href="http://pro.corbis.com/images/CB042667.jpg?size=572&amp;uid=%7bDA13F798-FDA1-4B54-BFA9-4B15492E024F%7d" target="_blank">(image from pro.corbis.com)</a></p>
<p>The analysts paired up today:   <br />Antonio Piraino (<a href="http://www.t1r.com/" target="_blank">Tier1 Research</a>)    <br /><a href="http://the451group.com/about/bio_detail.php?eid=113" target="_blank">William Fellows</a> (<a href="http://the451group.com/" target="_blank">The 451 Group</a>)</p>
<p><em>My usual disclaimers on live-blogging: doesn&#8217;t include everything covered (just what was most interesting to me) and had to paraphrase some answers because I simply cannot type that fast. </em></p>
<p><strong>Quick definition of Cloud Computing     <br /></strong><strong>WF:</strong> The cloud is a continuum of grid, virtualization and utility done right. It is about provisioning services instead of servers; flexible computing instead of fixed assets. Done right, the cloud abstracts users from the complexity of grid. <a href="http://www.the451group.com/images/content/ice/ice_iceberg.jpg">Cloud computing is IT as a service</a>. Cloud computing is the Third Way &#8211; not entirely in-house or outsourced, but an optimized hybridized version of both. In light of the Goldman Sachs report out resetting IT spending forecast from up 6% to down 1%, don&#8217;t underestimate the ability for enterprises to move from capex to opex by buying cloud computing instead of building it themselves.</p>
<p>The 451 Group conducted a survey on cloud computing in March, and then revisited it a month ago. Some interesting results:</p>
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<li>84% have no plans to develop an internal cloud. 5% had no answer to this question. And for the 10% who did answer &#8211; the uses for a private/internal cloud were the same as those for a public cloud. </li>
<li>Top 6 vendors they look to help them develop an internal cloud: <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/11/microsoft-s-smart-cloud-catch-up-plan-three-years-of-free-software-msft-" target="_blank">Microsoft</a>, <a href="http://topnews.in/ibm-expand-its-cloud-computing-efforts-285364" target="_blank">IBM</a>, Cisco, HP, Oracle, VMware </li>
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<p><strong><em>Is it all &#8220;upside&#8221; when it comes to cloud computing?       <br /></em></strong><strong>     <br />WF:</strong> Watch out for the Trojan horse, the red flag. What about the software needed to manage all this stuff? Any management software needs to take a holistic approach to solve the problem.</p>
<p><strong>AP:</strong> Increased management requirements and capability &#8211; this is actually a great story for managed hosters who can hold your hand while getting you up into the cloud. Hosters alleviate the pain points, and this is why we&#8217;re going to see continued growth and focus in the managed hosting sector.</p>
<p><strong>WF:</strong> I would argue that they&#8217;re too expensive. <a href="http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/10/25/amazons-ec2-cloud-moves-into-production/" target="_blank">Look at Amazon</a> &#8211; 10 cents a hit adds up.</p>
<p><strong>AP:</strong> It&#8217;s almost impossible to do an apples-to-apples comparison between cloud providers. One reason is that they charge differently. I&#8217;d say that when you&#8217;re talking about the big cloud providers, you are right &#8211; that they are expensive over the long-term, but for use in the short-term, they can be optimal.</p>
<p><strong>WF:</strong> The cloud is setting big expectations. Can IT deliver? It&#8217;s nice to talk about &#8220;shared resources for the greater good&#8221; but in any organization, you will still run into issues of power and control! Plus it&#8217;s still early days for resolution of regulatory issues and compliance around the cloud.</p>
<p><strong>Final Thoughts</strong></p>
<p><strong>AP:</strong> Think of the opportunities of using cloud computing resources in the areas of testing and pre-production &#8211; short-term use/environment (quick up/quick down), inexpensive, opex not capex. We&#8217;re already seeing the cloud fostering much innovation.</p>
<p><strong>WF:</strong> &#8220;It&#8217;s okay to fall in love with the term.&#8221; It is real but keep the expectations lower and realistic.</p>
<p><strong>AP:</strong> I agree with you. The reality is that the cloud is driving a very fundamental underlying platform change. This is not just a term or something that will fall out of fashion. There&#8217;s a real need to build trust in the cloud and leveraging shared resources in this way &#8211; so use the cloud computing term cautiously; don&#8217;t abuse it and make the cloud seem like IT&#8217;s new toy.</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m out at <a href="http://clientconference.the451group.com/na/2008/" target="_blank">The 451 Group Client Conference</a> in Boston, lovely Boston. It’s been over ten years since I lived here, but somehow Boston always has a feel of home.</p>
<p>After meetings and calls, I was finally able to slip into a conference session – just in time to catch uber-smart analysts Rachel Chalmers (<a href="http://the451group.com/" target="_blank">The 451 Group</a>) and Dan Golding (<a href="http://tier1research.com/" target="_blank">Tier1 Research</a>) engage in a lively and not-so-mock debate on “<a href="http://clientconference.the451group.com/na/2008/agenda.html" target="_blank">Hosting Meets the Cloud</a>”.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/clip-image0021.jpg"><img style="border-top-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; margin: 5px; border-right-width: 0px" src="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/clip-image002-thumb.jpg" border="0" alt="clip_image002" width="240" height="157" align="left" /></a>Now this doesn’t cover the entire debate – and part II is coming tomorrow. But what it does cover is the most interesting questions (to me) and paraphrase the points made by the analysts. I thought they both had very interesting points and more similarities than differences in the end; the real difference is how they thought about the issues and through what lens – for Rachel it was the enterprise and for Dan it was managed hosting providers.<em> (</em><a href="http://images.inmagine.com/img/inspirestock/ispc037/ispc037046.jpg" target="_blank"><em>image from inmagine</em></a><em>)</em></p>
<p><strong><em>Question: What is a cloud and why?</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>Dan:</strong> Shared infrastructure leveraged/run by third parties for the benefit of enterprises, developers, etc. This is not a new idea – just recently “rebranded.” Given all the discussion and disagreement over this now, what will the cloud end up looking like?</p>
<p><strong>Rachel:</strong> The cloud is “IT infrastructure as a service” down to the level of a server operating system. Take the example of <a href="http://www.cmswatch.com/Trends/1418-Cloud-computing---Ellison-rants,-others-reap?source=RSS" target="_blank">Amazon web services</a> – in this case it’s not just the infrastructure but also the internal processes built around service delivery, e.g., provisioning, that are being exposed as a commodity to external customers.</p>
<p><strong><em>Dan’s Question for Rachel: In your opinion, how much is the <a href="http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/devt/74F46C52ACB5316CCC2574F9007B3A37" target="_blank">cloud a fad versus CIOs</a> really trying to solve a problem?</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>Rachel:</strong> For the practical, roll-up-your-sleeves types of CIOs – those coming up from the engineering ranks – that I talk to, the cloud is real, as opposed to SOA and middleware.</p>
<p><strong><em>What about “internal” cloud computing – built and maintained by an enterprise versus a third-party provider?</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>Dan:</strong> Cloud computing is done by providers for customers. Certainly there are <a href="http://www.mashget.com/2008/11/02/salesforcecom-extends-cloud-computing-service/" target="_blank">enterprises that have made internal computing investments</a>, e.g., for publishing, large-scale phone systems, etc - but they were stupid ideas made by companies that have too much money. A better question here is does it make any sense for an enterprise to create their own cloud? While an enterprise can play at it, they can’t do it cost-effectively, not in a way that a third party provider can do it.</p>
<p><strong>Rachel:</strong> Many CIOs have “managed-hoster” envy – for things like chargeback and billing that hosters understand a do better. Of course there has been a rise in automation and virtualization tools in the enterprise which may not be as efficient and built for scalability as a hoster can achieve, but what is important is that they are customized/specialized for that business.</p>
<p><strong>Dan:</strong> Can you give a specific example of optimization to make it worthwhile for enterprises to do it themselves?</p>
<p><strong>Rachel:</strong> One example is sovereignty. The privacy laws around financial and healthcare information are not the same everywhere. Clouds and their geographically-dispersed data centers don’t necessarily have “national” borders. This is definitely a concern for the CIO that has to <a href="http://www.intomobile.com/2008/11/10/security-are-you-comfortable-sharing-your-information-with-%E2%80%98the-cloud%E2%80%99.html" target="_blank">comply with regulations in their industry around privacy protection</a>, for instance. Another example is security. Dow Chemical does a lot of work via joint ventures and has a need to provide but lock down desktops given to contractors as corporate workspaces. For their level of security, they need to “own” their computing resources.</p>
<p><strong>Dan:</strong> But why can’t someone like <a href="http://sungard.com/" target="_blank">SunGard</a> provide that as they do for many other large companies?</p>
<p><strong>Rachel:</strong> It comes down to a question of trust.</p>
<p><strong><em>Do people trust their hosting providers?</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>Dan</strong>: Yes. Whether it’s for a content delivery network or collocation, hosting the customers of hosting providers are some of the largest companies in the world in industries like energy and financial services. Give me a case when there was a major security issue with a hosting company. In fact, managed hosting providers usually provide better security than enterprises are capable of.</p>
<p><strong><em>And a question provided by an attendee from EMC: A few years ago, this would have been <a href="http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2008/10/24/computing-in-a-grid-or-a-cloud/" target="_blank">a grid discussion. How is the cloud different</a>?</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>Rachel</strong>: Grid computing ended up being applicable only for niches – which I predicted. The real opportunity for everyone else with the cloud only comes up when you combine the kinds of automation tools (originally developed for grid computing) with x86 virtualization.</p>
<p><strong>Dan</strong>: I agree. Grid was a niche play. There were very few orgs that needed it and that the economics worked for. There were very few enterprises for whom it made sense to build their own for. The cloud is shared/leveraged versus grid computing. It economically makes sense in a way grid never did.</p>
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      <title><![CDATA[America's CTO]]></title>
      <link>http://www.securityratty.com/article/7370017881b0de9957b3253bdde1e5eb</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I hope this message gets through to the Obama people - Bill Joy would be an amazingly good pick for the newly created CTO cabinet post. A grand slam to the upper deck. You can count the people with as...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope <a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/05/john-doerrs-advice-for-barack-obama-hire-bill-joy/">this message</a> gets through to the Obama people - Bill Joy would be an amazingly good pick for the newly created CTO cabinet post. A grand slam to the upper deck. You can count the people with as a good a track record in technology on one hand.</p><br /><div>Also, I could not agree more with John Doerr on these points:</div><br /><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; ">The next question from the president-elect was what single policy issue he could focus on that would most help entrepreneurs.</span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;"><br /></span><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; ">“The most important thing he’s got to do is kick-start a huge amount of research and innovation in energy,” said Mr. Doerr, who backed Google and Amazon.com and has invested heavily in clean energy technology for the last few years.</span><br /><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; ">The nation now invests less than $1 billion a year in renewable energy versus $32 billion a year in health care, Mr. Doerr said. “I think we’ve just scratched the surface in terms of clean ways to use energy, to produce energy. It’s the challenge of our generation.”</span><br /><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; ">How to do that? Double the number of engineers who graduate from American universities each year to 60,000, Mr. Doerr said. Bring more women into the field, and encourage foreigners who study engineering here to stay here.</span><br /><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; ">“What we do is bring foreign nationals to the world’s greatest universities. We train them, invest in them and make them go home,” he said. “What kind of national strategy is that? So I would staple a green card to the diploma.”</span></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;"><br /></span></p><div><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10px; "><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.4em; line-height: 1.5em; "><span id="more-1803"></span></p></span></div><div><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">While it is amazing that it took until 2009 for the US to have a CTO as a cabinet level position, it is very cool to think about all the things that could happen going forward. As Neal Stephenson said the US is only world class at three things - 1. Movies, 2. High speed pizza delivery and 3. Software development.</span></div><div><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">If you read your </span><a href="http://edgeperspectives.typepad.com/edge_perspectives/">John Hagel</a><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;"> and </span><a href="http://www.johnseelybrown.com/">JSB</a><span style="color: #333333; font-family: georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">, then you know that innovation is the only sustainable edge. Luckily its hard wired into our system, but it will be helpful to have a seat at the table for certain things. &#0160;</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[I Dreamed a Dream of Clouds Gone Social]]></title>
      <link>http://www.securityratty.com/article/0080c2c0dc834c0843fe8598971ccd2f</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Can Marc Benioff live up to his own hype plus the hype around cloud computing? Maybe. ( image from chris lyb
Salesforce.coms Dreamforce conference takes place this week in SF. Billed as The Cloud...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; margin: 5px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" src="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/clip-image002.jpg" border="0" alt="clip_image002" width="240" height="180" align="left" />Can Marc Benioff live up to his own hype plus the hype around cloud computing? Maybe. (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriskramerblog/1411104892/in/set-72157602080811580/">image from chris_lyb</a>)</p>
<p>Salesforce.com’s <a href="http://www.salesforce.com/dreamforce/DF08/">Dreamforce conference</a> takes place this week in SF. Billed as “The Cloud Computing Event of the Year”, the <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/11/03/threes-a-cloud-for-salesforcecom-facebook-and-amazoncom/">conference kicked off with a keynote by Benioff</a> while people wearing puffy-white jackets and holding giant helium-filled cloud balloons stood outside.</p>
<p>Benioff announced partnerships with Facebook and Amazon.</p>
<p>Part 1: Force.com apps will be able to run on Facebook and leverage the Facebook users’ social network. An example shown was <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/11/03/dreamforce-salesforcecom-adds-facebook-amazon-and-neil-young/">integrating “My Starbucks Idea” into Facebook</a>. If a user submits an idea through Facebook, their friends can see it, comment or be prompted to submit their own.</p>
<p>Part 2: Force.com <a href="http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Salesforcecom_Partners_with_Amazoncom_and_Facebook_28151.html">applications can now use Amazon’s cloud hosting services</a> in addition to the public Force.com sites.</p>
<p>This is smart and a surprisingly non-megalomaniac way of doing things. Instead of trying to own the entire cloud stack (<a href="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/blue-skies-for-microsofts-cloud-computing/10/2008%5d">hmmm – someone just made a very different announcement</a>), Salesforce looks like it’s focusing on what it does best – enabling application development in a hosted model. And letting Amazon take at least some of the future blame for any outages/interruptions in service (anyone who has Salesforce can say amen to that). That is smart.</p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Links List 10.31.08]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Happy Halloween

What an interesting time to hold a technology conference. The DLA Piper Global Technology Leaders Summit last week brought together CXOs from Amazon, Walmart.com, Stanford, Safeway,...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Happy Halloween!</b>
<p><a href="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/em7-pumpkin.jpg"><img style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" height="184" alt="EM7_pumpkin" src="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/em7-pumpkin-thumb.jpg" width="244" border="0"></a>
<p>What an interesting time to hold a technology conference. The <a href="http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Management/CxOs-Get-Together-for-Candid-OfftheRecord-Chat/?kc=EWKNLNAV10272008STR3" target="_blank">DLA Piper Global Technology Leaders Summit last week</a> brought together CXOs from Amazon, Walmart.com, Stanford, Safeway, Microsoft, Sun, Cisco and others to discuss the state of IT in general and how the economy is impacting it. Some highlights:<br />
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<p>&#8220;Cloud computing for large enterprises is a dead duck, in the opinion of several venture capital firms.&#8221;</p>
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<p>&#8220;The current slowdown in the U.S. macroeconomy is definitely going to hurt the IT industry, as it will most of the nation&#8217;s businesses, for at least the next year and most likely into the next two years.&#8221;</p>
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<p><a href="http://blogs.eweek.com/storage_station/content/general/netapp_cancels_first_user_conference_cites_travel_issues.html" target="_blank">NetApp cancelled its first user conference</a> slated for 2009 citing economy-driven restrictions on <a href="http://www.btnonline.com/businesstravelnews/headlines/frontpage_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003875472" target="_blank">business travel</a>.
<p>We recently wrote about the possible <a href="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/are-there-recession-proof-it-products/10/2008" target="_blank">upside for MSPs</a> in this economic downtown. A <a href="http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/10/29/Recession_set_to_boost_outsourcing_1.html?source=NLC-TB&amp;cgd=2008-10-30" target="_blank">survey from EquaTerra</a> of more than 200 outsourcing service suppliers announced that “more than 40 percent of those polled had seen increased demand levels, despite the economic downturn.” The survey suggests that outsourcing projects are changing, with a strong focus on quick return on investment replacing longer-term initiatives to improve end-to-end business processes, according to InfoWorld. So as we saw during <a href="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/interop-ny-survey-top-it-challenges-trends-and-what-it-is-spending-money-on/09/2008" target="_blank">our own surveys</a> this year, it looks like IT will spend time and money against the practical projects that should and could get done and not taking on ITIL and CMDB projects.
<p>Jonathan Schwartz as a puppet talking about open source and his ponytail. The driest Sesame Street take-off you’ll ever see. Check out the <a href="http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/10/14/continuous-partial-innovation/" target="_blank">video here</a>. For those of you playing a drinking game at home, “ponytail”.
<p>Denise Dubie <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/nsm/2008/102708nsm2.html?nlhtnsm=ts_102908&amp;nladname=102908networksystemsmanagemental" target="_blank">posted a follow up</a> to her article <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/33996" target="_blank">Novell’s Managed Objects buy</a>, and shared insights from different commenters, including <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/33996#comment-191253" target="_blank">yours truly</a>.
<p>One of our favorites, the IT Skeptic was <a href="http://www.johnmwillis.com/itil/5-questions-for-the-itskeptic/" target="_blank">featured on John Willis’ blog</a> this week, answering some questions about CMDB, ITSMF and more. He also provided his insight into IBM Tivoli, although he “tries to stay non-partisan”.
<p>Inexplicable. HP posted <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/10/27/h-p-commercializes-halloween-with-monsters-that-speak-technobabble/" target="_blank">Halloween-themed videos about datacenters</a> on YouTube this week. Unlike the great <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSqXKp-00hM" target="_blank">IBM videos about the mainframe</a>, these videos speak techno-babble without tempering the lingo with being funny or tongue-in-cheek. Various frightening creatures share information on service management processes and discuss virtualization techniques to help consolidate hardware. Scary.</p>
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      <title><![CDATA[Blue Skies for Microsofts Cloud Computing]]></title>
      <link>http://www.securityratty.com/article/3c9eda5c7b392de30995f1ab45b5ef03</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Microsoft announced their Azure cloud platform this week a rival to Amazon.coms EC2 and Googles App Engine. Combined with Microsoft Visual Studio, SQL Services, .NET Services, Live Services,...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style="border-top-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; border-right-width: 0px" height="132" alt="windowsazure" src="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/windowsazure.jpg" width="196" align="left" border="0"> Microsoft announced their <a href="http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Cloud-Computing/Microsoft-Unveils-Cloud-Platform-Windows-Azure/?kc=EWKNLNAV10282008STR1" target="_blank">Azure cloud platform</a> this week – a rival to <a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Amazon-Web-Services-Launches-Amazon/story.aspx?guid=%7B70399F5E-7F4D-4085-A1BD-6D937847B50E%7D" target="_blank">Amazon.com’s EC2</a> and Google’s App Engine. Combined with Microsoft Visual Studio, SQL Services, .NET Services, Live Services, Sharepoint Services and Microsoft Dynamics CRM Services, the new platform will help web developers to build apps for the cloud.
<p><img style="border-top-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; margin: 10px 0px 0px 10px; border-right-width: 0px" height="244" alt="cloud" src="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/cloud.jpg" width="166" align="right" border="0">
<p>The Azure announcement is the culmination of years of planning for Microsoft’s “software-plus-services approach to computing.” According to <a href="http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Cloud-Computing/The-Woman-Behind-the-Microsoft-Cloud/?kc=EWKNLNAV10292008STR3" target="_blank">Debra Chrapaty</a>, the woman who runs Microsoft’s data center infrastructure, plans started about four to five years ago to build out data center capacity for the new initiatives. The best place to build a new data center: Quincy, Washington – whose hydroelectric power and commitment to fiber made it a winner. (<a href="http://quincywashington.us/quincy/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=57&amp;Itemid=2" target="_blank">Click here</a> for Mayor Hernberry’s update on the impact of the new data centers and apparently new wineries popping up in Quincy.)
<p>Thank goodness for Microsoft. In this economy, we should all be grateful to companies that can still spend between $300 million to $700 million to build just one data center. </p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Get a Windows Server on the Fly in the Amazon Cloud]]></title>
      <link>http://www.securityratty.com/article/d76698803ebfafb9786b04c89ddf8556</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Amazon's EC2 (Elastic Compute Cloud) was cool enough with its initial platform. Now it is offering Windows support on the EC2 platform . Thanks to Jesper's Blog for the tip. Like a lot about the EC2,...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Cloud-Computing/Amazon-and-Cloud-Computing/">Amazon's EC2 (Elastic Compute Cloud) was cool enough</a> with its initial platform. Now it is offering <a href="http://aws.amazon.com/windows/">Windows support on the EC2 platform</a>. Thanks to <a href="http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/10/24/need-a-spare-windows-box.aspx">Jesper's Blog</a> for the tip.

Like a lot about the EC2, this turns out to be really convenient for developers. Did you ever want to develop or test a Windows Web app on a real server, not just your test desktop, and not have to get a real server to do it? Now you can just virtualize up a Windows server in the cloud and it's yours: A virtual server running Windows Server 2003, SQL Server and all the .NET stuff preinstalled.

<a href="http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=1767&categoryID=100%20">A security white paper from Amazon</a> describes the configuration of the Windows system images available and their differences from a standard Windows Server installation. Setup from the user's standpoint looks really easy; Jesper said it took him 5 minutes.

A Security Configuration Wizard walks you through an attack surface reduction process, which helps you to turn off services that are not needed and restrict communications channels that should not be permitted. In the end you can save the image and spin off new ones to meet your new standards as necessary.

EC2 is a great development for developers and a great way for Amazon to leverage all the work it has put into building its infrastructure. I see a lot of opportunities available.
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